Please respond to the post before Saturday, January 22, midnight
1- Why did the Constitution replace the Articles of Confederation?
2- Why were the Ordinances of 1784 and 1785 helpful in the development of the West?
3-Explain the "Great Compromise" and it's importance?
3-The Great Compromise was a giant step for the government in early USA. Before the Great Compromise, there were two plans for government. The first one was called the Virginia Plan. It was a plan that would benefit larger populated states. It was designed so that every citizen would each get to vote for everything. This gave more populated states a lot of power. The other plan was called the New Jersey plan. It gave less populated states more of an advantage. The New Jersey plan was similar to the standards of the Articles of Confederation. The citizens of a certain state would all vote on something, and the majority would count as one vote for the states. This meant that less populated states such as New Jersey could have the same power as a largely populated state like Virginia. They ended up combining the two plans into one. It was bicameral, meaning it had two houses. Each were based off of the Virginia and New Jersey plans. This event was important for our county so that we could stay together, and not go back to the Articles of Confederation. This turned out to work great, and we still use it today.
ReplyDelete--Matt Anderson 4th period
britta gotberg 1st pd
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The great compromise was a great thing they took a part of both plans and combined it into one. It all started when the united colonies turned into the United States. They had decided that they did not want to be ruled by a king so they had the articles of confederation. That worked out for a while but then as they were voting all the small states got outvoted. Then they made a vote to have a compromise Virginia got parts of its plan and New Jersey got parts of its plan. Then that’s when we decided to have one vote per state and two houses and we also got congress. So all this worked out for our countries.
3. The Great Compromise is what formed our government. Someone from Virginia proposed a plan (named the Virginia Plan) that said the number of representitives you send to make the laws depends on your state's population. The littler states like Rhode Island, and New Jersey thought that this gave too much power to the bigger states.
ReplyDeleteSince New Jersey thought that the Virginia Plan would give them too much power, they came up with their own. The New Jersey Plan said that instead of the representitives being chosen by the population, each state would only get 1 vote each. The bigger states didn't like this because they thought they did deserve more power. They got together and decided to try and compromise. They put together both of them so everyone would be happy. Each state gets 1 vote in the Senate and the votes depend on the population in the House of Representitives. They called this The Great Compromise.
-Casey Slaughter- 4th
When the Articles of Confederation went into effect in 1781, few foresaw the political failure that would lead to their replacement in 1789. The Constitution was more effective than the Articles for several reasons, one of which was the establishent of a centralized government in the nation. Under the Articles of Confederation, the states were almost independent countries that anwered only to a weak legislative body. Furthermore, states could deny requests from Congress for funds, troops, and other things, resulting in impaired national progress. An example of this would be the outbreak of Shays's Rebelion, which the government could hardly suppress. The inability of the governent to tax the whole nation made paying off war debts almost impossible, as well. In contrast, the Constitution created a more powerful federal government that could levy taxes onall states, administer a national military, and have states pay for national programs. Also, the government under the Articles did not meet the expectatioins that the states had for their national government. The government at the time had but a single legislative branch that had little power over the states. Congress did not represent the states on the basis of population, either, which was considered unfair by larger states. To resolve this issue, the Constitution provided for a government with an executive, a legislative, and a judicial branch. Each branch was kept from holding too much power by a system of checks and balances. In addition, Congress was made bicameral in the "Great Compromise," satisfying the demands of both the larger and the smaller states. The Senate would give all the states equal representation while the states would be represented according to population in the House of Representatives. Finally, when the Bill of Rights was adopted in 1791, a written list of the rights of the people was reated, which the Articles of Confederation lacked. It was because of these things that the governent under the Constitution had such a great advantage over the one established by the Articles of Confederation.
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The Great Compromise was the settlement between the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. The Virginia Plan was that there would be two houses and the number of representatives per state would be based upon each state’s population. This plan would benefit the bigger, more populated states more so than the smaller states with fewer people. The New Jersey Plan was that there would be one house and every state would get two votes, no matter how big or small their state. This plan would benefit the smaller, less populated states. The Great Compromise combined the best of both of these plans and would profit all of the states, large and small. The Great Compromise included two houses, the House of Representatives and the Senate. In the House of Representatives each state was alloted a number of votes based on their size in population. In the Senate all of the states were allowed two votes, no matter if it had five hundred or one thousand people living in their state. The Great Compromise was important in that it was fair to all states, big and small, and it is still the way the government works today. This form of government has been successful in making and passing vital laws since its inception in 1787.
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It became obvious that the Articles of Confederaton would not be sufficient to hold the nation together.
ReplyDeleteUnder the Articles there was only a unicameral legislature so that there was no separation of powers. Gavin Hilbig 4th
The central government under the Articles was too weak since the majority of the power rested with the states.
Congress, under the Articles, did not have the power to tax which meant that they could never put their finances in order.
In order to change or amend the Articles, unanimous approval of the states was required which essentially meant that changes to the Articles were impossible.
For any major laws to pass they had to be approved by 9 or the 13 states which proved difficult to do so that even the normal business of running a government was difficult.
Congress did not have the power to regulate commerce which caused competition between states as well as diplomatic issues
The Great Compromise was the agreement that decided our new government. It consisted of two plans combined; the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey plan. Each one was unique, and each side wouldn’t give in to the other. So, in order to unite our first thirteen states, they came up with a compromise that combined the two plans.
ReplyDeleteThe first was called the Virginia plan. James Madison devised the plan and Edmund Randolph presented it before the Continental Convention of 1787. Randolph told the fifty-five men that were at the convention that our country needed a government of three separate courts. This idea was already very different from the governments and monarchies that the men were used to. Randolph also said that the Legislative branch should consist of two houses, and each state should be represented by their population. The larger states would have more members in the houses than the smaller states, because they had more people living within their state. The smaller states disliked this plan because they would always be outvoted by the states with more representatives. They claimed it wasn’t fair that the bigger states got more votes than them.
So, secondly, William Paterson offered a plan for the smaller states. He suggested that they create a one-house legislature. All the states would have equal delegates, that way the smaller states actually had a say. The larger states disagreed, and said that the plan wasn’t fair to them. Everyone realized that neither plan would suit all thirteen states, and they would have to make a deal.
The convention lasted for weeks, and the delegates were arguing the whole time. On July 2, the representatives came up with a ‘grand committee.’ This committee combined the two plans into the government we have today. The legislature would be bicameral, which means two houses. The lower house would be represented by the population of each state, and the upper house would have each state be represented equally with two delegates apiece. This plan was called the Great Compromise. It made all the states happy, the large and small. It was a brilliant plan, obviously, because we still have the same system today.
~Sydnee D
The great compromise e took the New Jersey and Virginia plan and took parts of each of them. The Virginia plan wanted to count the population as votes but the smaller countries like New Jersey didn’t like this plan. The Virginia plan was unicameral, only one house. They had a small population compared to Virginia. The New Jersey plan wanted to count each state as a vote. They had such a small population that Virginia and all the other big countries would always over rule them. So each plan would only benefit the big or small state. New Jersey was bi cameral, they wanted two houses.
ReplyDeleteThe great compromise combined both so that it benefited both countries. There were two houses the senate and representative. The House of Representatives made it so that each state was given a number of votes based on the size of the population. The Senate made it so that the states were allowed two votes. The great compromise is really important because all the states agreed on it and it made it peaceful. This type of government still works today, France has tried to make it work but they have had several fails and now it’s only 50 years old ours is 200 years old.
#3—The Great Compromise was very fundamental to the advancement of our country. As the Constitutional Convention of 1787 was being held, two plans were proposed for the basis of the government. They are known as the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. In the Virginia Plan, it was proposed that it would be bicameral, which means two houses, and the number of votes each state had would be based on their population. Therefore, Virginia would have more representation in the houses than the states like, Rhode Island and New Jersey. The smaller states did not agree with this plan because they thought that if it was instituted, the larger states like Virginia would become too powerful. Thus, the smaller states proposed the New Jersey Plan. In the New Jersey Plan, it would be a unicameral legislature, meaning only one house, and in that house all of the states would be represented equally. Each state would only get one vote. To the smaller states, this seemed like an ideal plan. However, the larger states felt like it would not be giving everyone the opportunity to be represented with their vote. As one can only imagine, the decision was impossible to make. How could you choose one plan that compensated both sides? That was why the Great Compromise was created. The Great Compromise took ideas from both the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. The Great Compromise used Virginia’s bicameral legislature, but in the upper house the states would be represented with only two members from each state, thus compensating the smaller states. In the lower house the number of representatives would be based purely on population, which favors the larger states. With the Great Compromise, both plans were used and all states agreed on it, thus making it possible for the convention to continue. The Great Compromise worked great then and still works great today.
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Question 3:
ReplyDeleteThe Great Compromise was a combination of two plans. These plans were the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. The Virginia Plan was based on population. This gave the states with more population more power. The people in Virginia thought this was a good plan, but the
smaller states found it unfair. They had a plan called the New Jersey Plan. This plan gave each state one vote. The bigger states found this unfair. They thought they should get more votes because they had more people. The Great Compromise was these two plans combined into one. It was important to have this plan so everyone was happy and no one felt like other states were being favored.
Alexis Parkinson
period 4
Question #3
ReplyDeleteSince the 13 United States of America broke away from Britian, they had no government. People started to come up with their own ideas, but nobody really agreed on them. One guy from Virginia, James Madison, suggested that the government be bicameral and states should have a certain number of representitives based on population. But a guy from New Jersey, William Paterson, disagreed and said that the government should be unicameral and each state gets one vote. People realized that nobody was going to do one or the other so the Great Compromise was made. They took a little bit from each proposed plan and formed a government that everyone agreed with. Otherwise people would keep bickering and we wouldn't have a government.
Spenser Potter
4th period
The Great Compromise was a solution to both the Virginia and the Massachusetts plan. Massachusetts thought it was unfair because they thought that the bigger states, like Virginia, would outvote them every time. Virginia thought that if you had a bigger population, you should get more votes. This was a big conflict, and it needed to be solved. Because they didn't want a war to start, they came up with a compromise. This compromise made it so that each state had the same amount of votes. But they also made it so that there is a vote by population. Because of this compromise, the states agreed and lived happily ever after.
ReplyDeleteHarrison Adams
4th
The Great Compromise was an agreement between the Virginia and New Jersey plans. New Jersey wanted one house, and they thought each state should get the same amount of votes so that the bigger states wouldn't out vote them every time. The people from Virginia thought that it would be fair that the states with higher population should get more votes, because they have more citizens. Because of the Great Compromise, both the plans got squished into one and almost everyone was happy.
ReplyDeleteHarrison Adams
4th
The Great Compromise was an agrement between the Virginia and New Jersey plan. Virginia thought that it would be fair if the states with higher population got more votes. New Jersey thought that each state should get the same amount of votes so that the bigger states wouldn't be too powerful and outvote the smaller states. The Great Compromise squished both the plans together and made it so both the states were somewhat satisfied.
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4th
3- Before the Great Compromise, there were two plans for the government. One of them was the Virginia Plan. This plan would benefit the states with larger population. The Virginia Plan said that every citizen should get one vote. That was really good for Virginia because they would get more votes because their population was so big. The other plan was the New Jersey Plan. This plan was that there would be one house and every state would get two votes no matter how big or small the state was. This plan would benefit the smaller states. The most important question about this plan was slavery. Would slaves be counted as population or property? The larger states argued slaves should be considered persons in determining representation. But otherwise, they should be considered property if the new government levied taxes on the states based on population. The Great Compromise combined both of these plans and would benefit all states, big or small. There were two houses in the Great Compromise; the House of Representatives and the Senate. In the House of Representatives, each state was given a number of votes depending on their population. In the Senate, all the states got two votes no matter how many people lived in the state. The Great Compromise was important because it was fair to all states.
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Period 4
3-The Great Compromise.
ReplyDeleteThey were working on a new government and so they came up with two choices, The Virginia Plan and The New Jersey Plan. Virginia plan says that they can have a certain amount of votes based on your population. The New Jersey Plan says that each state gets the same amount of votes. They had a problem because each plan made it so then nobody could make a discission on which plan they should go with. So they came up with The Great Compromise! This made it so they did both things. They had it were there were two representitives for each state and then they had representitives for each state based off of population. Without the compromise America could be split into two, and it wouldn't be the same today.
Kason Eggers
4th Period
The great compromise was a very important part in american history. This compromise happened because there was a debate between two different plans. The first plan was called the Virginia plan. This plan was bicameral, which means there are two houses. Also when people vote it will count for everyone. Although this is the more fair plan it definitely benefits the more populated states. The other plan was the New Jersey plan. This one was unicameral, this means one house. This plan made it so each state has one vote. This is unfair because one person could decide a law for one hundred people. This plan benefited the less populated states. So they made the Great Compromise. This had two houses. Depending on your amount of population determines how many votes you get for your state. This was important because it was a major part of keeping our union together.
ReplyDeleteConnor Lightfoot 4th period
The Great Compromise of 1787 was a compromise between the New Jersey Plan and the Virginia plan.
ReplyDeleteThe New Jersey Plan proposed one house (unicameral). The States would have the same amount of representatives. The States would be represented equally so every state would have the same amount of power. Each state would only have one vote.
The Virginia Plan proposed two houses (bicameral). Would largely favor Virginia. They ach State's number of representative would be determined by the States population. The population part would have more representatives because they had a large population. Little States like Rhode Island and New Jersey would be out voted every time because they had little populations.
In the Great Compromise, they took the each State is equal from the New Jersey plan, the two house system, and that each State's number of representatives is based on the population from the Virginia Plan.
Today, our government has two houses. In the upper house, the Senate, each State is equal. Each State has two senators. In the lower house, the House of Representatives, each State's number of congressmen is determined on the states population.
Our government is very unique. No other country has a government anything like it. In my opinion, our government is the best.
Preston Olschewski 4th period
Question #3
By 1787 it was realized that the Articles of Confederation was a poor basis of government. People believed it lacked the necessary requirements for an effective government. With no tax base, it was almost impossible to pay off war debts. So the delegates from 12 states (Rhode Island didn’t send any representatives) met to revise the Articles. Revision was the original plan, but there were some, James Madison, who thought it better to form a new government than to fix the current one. The plan to form a new government was agreed on, but that was all that the delegates agreed on. Several plans for a new government were conceived. The ones most talked about in History being: the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey plan.
ReplyDeleteThe delegates from Virginia came well prepared to the convention, James Madison having devised most of the plan for the new government. Many people were immediately hooked on the proposed government consisting of a supreme Legislative, Executive, and Judiciary. What a lot of states didn’t like were the details of the plan, such as: a bicameral legislature, were in the bottom house the states would be represented by population, and the upper house members would be voted in by members of the lower house. A big problem states had, was that there was no rigidity set on representation, meaning they might not even get represented in the upper house.
The delegates from the smaller states met this plan with great opposition. William Patterson, a representative of New Jersey, offered an alternative plan. The New Jersey plan would stay closer to the original plan of drafting amendments to the Articles of Confederation, keeping the unicameral system and all states would be equally represented. It would provide Congress the power to tax and regulate commerce though. It was rejected, but it gave them a basis of argument against the bigger states.
The arguing went on for weeks; another topic that came up was slavery. If states would be represented by population, should slaves be counted? A compromise was reached when the delegates of Connecticut presented a hybrid of the two plans. It would be a bicameral legislature, where in the lower house, the states would be represented on population; slaves would be counted as 3/5 of a person. In the upper house, states would be represented evenly with two members each.
It took eleven days of voting and debating, but on July 16 1787, the vote was passed. A compromise had been reached and America had a new central government.
-Matt Larson
4th Period
3- The Great Compromise was formed to prevent a fight between two states differences. It took ideas from the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan and created a better government. The great compromise created two houses. The idea of having two houses came from the Virginia Plan. The houses were the House of Representatives and the house of senate. The house of representative was where all of the representatives from the states met. Representatives were an idea from the Virginia Plan. The representatives were by population. The Senate favored the smaller states. Each state had two, therefore making it equal.
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#3
ReplyDeleteThe Great Compromise was very important to the Constitution in many ways. It delegated power more evenly between the states and it gave us our government. It gave us our basic lives. Eventually.
The Great Compromise was what satisfied the two sets of states, large states like Virginia and Georgia,and small states, like Rhode Island and Connecticut by making things fair. It gave us a bicameral set of houses, the Senate, and the House of Representatives. But, it also divided the main amount of power, the Senate, evenly, by taking New Jersey's idea of giving every state one vote. It was better for both sides.
Our government was based on the ideas of the Constitutional Conference. The basic ideas were very good, but they hadn't figured out the need for the Bill of Rights. Still, they gave us our basic setup that we've had for our 200 years. It's been very effective so far.
The Great Compromise was a very good idea for them. They got the chance to change the bad parts of the government like the single minded objective to not have a king-like figure. It gave them a chance to have a strong government and to realize their mistakes. It gave them a chance to fix their lives.
John Wright
4th Period
Question #3
ReplyDeleteThe Great Compromise was a huge part of our new government and has been going on for almost 200 years, the longest "working" voting system. There were two plans in the beginning and they were combined in the end to make The Great Compromise. The first plan was called the Virginia Plan. This plan would help the bigger states who had large populations. This plan said that each citizen would each get to vote for what they wanted to. So bigger states like Virginia had a lot of power. The other plan was called the New Jersey Plan and it said that instead voting by population each state would just get 1 vote. This plan was good for little states like New Jersey and Rhode Island but it didn't seem fair to the bigger states because they had more people. So they met up and decide to combine the two plans into one. This wad called The Great Compromise. It was bicameral which meant that there were two houses, the House of Representatives and the Senates. In the House of Reps each state was given a number of votes based on their population. In the Senate all of the states were given 2 votes, no matter the population. This plan was amazing and we as the USA still use it today.
Taylor Welch
Period 4
The constitutional convention of 1787 was one of the greatest debates undertaken by delegates. The convention was centered on the idea of how many representatives each state should have in the New Government.
ReplyDeleteThe New Jersey plan and the Virginia Plan were the main sources of the Compromise.
The New Jersey plan was based upon equality. Each state should get one representative no matter what the population was. Being a smaller state, it was fair for them, and all other small states, but more populated states (Virginia) did not agree because it was not giving them the supremacy.
The Virginia plan was the complete opposite of the New Jersey Plan. The Virginians had many people and were by far the largest state in the beginning of the Unites States. Being big, they thought the more people you had populating the state, the more representatives you should have. This made sense, because it gave them more control.
After looking at both ideas, Roger Sherman was credited to have proposed the idea of a “bicameral”, or two houses, congress made up of a Senate, and a House of Representatives. This design suggested that each state one send an equal number of representatives to the Senate and one representative to the House for every 30,000 people that colonized the state.
--Lyndee Labrum
The Great Compromise was a very important step to the making of our government. It was for the most part, a compromise between to plans. The first plan was the Virginia plan. The Virginia Plan was, each state would get a certain amount of votes according to the population. This was a great plan for the big states with a massive population, but for the little states like Rhode Island and Delaware, this was a horrible plan. The other plan was the New Jersey plan. This consisted of every state getting the same amount of votes. They finally made a compromise and combined the two plans to become bicameral, meaning we have two houses. Now, we have a senate, in which two states have two, and a House of Representatives in which each state has according to population. The Great Compromise was extremely important because it made both plans fair to each and every state and it is still the way we run our government .
ReplyDelete-MacKenzie Madrid 4th period
#3The Great Compromise was an agreement between the United States. It made it so both states could get their way. The bigger states wanted to do voting by population, but the smaller states wanted each of the states to have only one vote each. what the the great Compromise did was mix these two ideas toghether. That meant that everyone would be happy.
ReplyDeleteAustin K.
4th Period
Before the Great Compromise, the Articles of Confederation was the certain government of that time. Nobody liked that so they were debating on what government they should have. There were 2 plans. The first plan was called the Virginia Plan. It benefited the larger states because you would get so many representatives based on your population. Well, the smaller states didn't like that idea, so New Jersey came up with a plan called the New Jersey Plan. It stated that you would get one vote per state so that everyone would have equal votes so that the larger states wouldn't dominate in electoins. There was a debate about it and they came up with a compromise. The Great Compromise was that there would be 2 houses. The first house would have equal amount of representatives. The second house would have representatives based on the population of each state. That is how we got the Senate and the House of Representatives.
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ReplyDeleteThe Americans didn’t want a king or a monarch to have all the power. The king or monarch makes the laws, enforces the laws, and judges. The states wanted to find something that would not let one person have all that power.
There were two plans proposed, the Virginia plan and the New Jersey plan. The Virginia plan was a bicameral government, two houses, and how many representatives from each state was determined by population. This benefited the big states a lot, but the small states didn’t like that idea. The New Jersey plan was a unicameral government, one house, and each state got an equal amount of votes. This benefited the smaller states, with a little population but wasn’t very fair to the big states.
No one could find a great plan fair for all states, so a compromise was made. They made a Legislative branch, which made the laws. This was split into two houses, Senates, which each state get an equal amount of representatives, and House of Representatives, which the number of representatives was based on the population. They made an Executive branch, which enforced the laws. This is the president and his cabinet. Then they made the judicial branch, which judged. These are made up of judges.
This way everyone was happy and no one felt like anyone else was especially favored.
Eliza Moore
period 4
Morgan DeGooyer 4th period
ReplyDeleteThe Great Compromise was an agreement between the states. The bigger states wanted the virginia plan which said that there wold be two houses and that the amount of votes that your state would get would be according to the population of your state. So if you had a bigger population the more votes you get that is why the bigger states liked this idea because they had a big population. The smaller states didn't like this plan that much because they have a smaller population and if the virginia plan got passed then they would hardly get a say in anything. So the little states made their own plan called the new jersey plan. The new jersey plan said that there would only be one house and that each state would get one vote no matter what the population was. This is where the Great Compromise came into action. The Great Compromise said that there would be two houses. One house was determined by populationan and then one house said that only two representatives could come and vote.
The Great Comprmise was a decision between the New Jersey plan and the Virginia plan. The states with a larger population wanted the Virginia plan because it favored them. What I mean is that the Virginia plan stated that the larger population of the state the more the votes. Although this plan may have been great for larger populated states it favored them way to much.On the other hand the New Jersey plan stated that each state has the same amount of votes. This would make things much more even and we would have closer votes. So instead of fighting about it (which we did for awhile) the people simply combinded the two, which is known today as the Great Compromise
ReplyDeleteNick Plaga
4th Period
#3- The Great Compromise was the decided on our new government. Before the only two options for a government was the Virginia Plan and the New Jersey Plan. The Virginia Plan made it so every citizen of each state received one vote. This benefits larger and more populated states. Now New Jersey, being a littler state, did not like this at all. So they came up with a new plan. The New Jersey plan. This made it so larger states didn't have as much power. Instead all the states where equal, voting wise. So instead of each citizen gets one vote, the whole state only gets one vote. So how do you decide which one? You simply have a compromise and combine them. Virginia gets some of their plan, and New Jersey gets some of theirs. This new bicameral type of government worked very well. So well, we still use it today.
ReplyDelete-Brayden Carlson, Period 4
1. The reason that the articles of confederation was replaced by the constitution is because the articles of confederation was not working right. There was to many holes in the articles of confederation and many things went wrong. The constitution was created to replace the articles of confederation and it had a hard time taking off. After much debate the Constitution was ratified and it has worked out ever since. It is truly a well thought out plan that has worked for over 200 years.
ReplyDelete-Austin J.
4th period
Benjamin Franklin and one delegate from each state produced a proposal which became the "Great Compromise". It called for a two house legislature; an upper house, and a lower house. The Great Compromise allowed the lower house to have African-American Slaves to count as three-fifths of a free person. This helped determine the basis for both representation and direct taxation. The upper house allowed the states, regardless of size, to be represented equally with two representatives per state.
ReplyDelete~Samantha Jardine
Period 4
3_ The Great Compromise settled whether we should count each states votes by population with one house of representatives (known as the Virginia Plan), or by having each state have the same amount of votes with two house of Representatives (known as the New Jersey Plan). They were both great plans, but the Great Compromise was an even better plan. The plan took bits and pieces of each other plan and put it together. The Great Compromise has two houses and counts the votes by population. New Jersey and the other small states were not very happy because they thought that Virginia would win all the votes. Thanks to the Great Compromise, it made everyone happy.
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